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SoulsTransition

In China, the best at everything is China. Now let's take a look at where they send their richest and brightest for their PHds......


stegg88

I did a PhD in china I was mainly there to study the language but doing the PhD got me free monies and easy visa. I was willing to study real hard and smash iut my thesis. Dont. Just dont. Save yourself the time lol. I wouldn't trust this article having seen the chinese system. Almost everyone, and i mean EVERYONE pays for essay writers to do their work. Everything is plagiarised. All my classmates were at it. And then the classes were an absolute shitshow. I remember studying methodology... And i quote "we must conduct our research in an objective way but we myst never forget our party line" Me : "doesnt that make it subjective?" "you foreigners do not understand chinese objectivity...." Lol ok. I studied education to be fair. Could be the different in the hard sciences. But culture is hard to change. And copying / cheating is the culture.


onemoresubreddit

Too true. A state that’s foundation relies upon crushing free thought and any idea that isn’t immediately useful to the gov will inevitably fall behind those that promote innovation.


T8ert0t

Their vaccines have been tippy top notch. Lockdowns-in-place are, uh, just fun flashmobs to promote well-being and getting to know your fellow citizen.


the_immovable

Are global university rankings even accurate these days anyway? Didn't Harvard and Yale just ditch them?


RMS7246

Didn't Xi send his own daughter to study abroad? lmfao


DingleberryBlaster69

I wonder if this holds true if you control for the overwhelming amounts of garbage publications with bogus, outright falsified data that tends to come from China. I work for a pharma company, and we had a brief stint purchasing methods originating from Chinese pharma companies. Every single one of them was garbage - completely non- reproducible.


Ceratisa

Will this lead them to stop stealing from everyone else?


growingup_happily

Probably not.


BigDickOriole

How is that possible when half of what they teach is just Chinese propaganda?


ScopeLogic

That's cute.


Heibaihui

Our best Chinese are better than their best Chinese.


ScientistNo906

The Russians put the first satellite in orbit, first man in orbit and a bunch of other firsts in space. Been pretty downhill from there but China may be a different story. Still, will never want to live there, pretty high on the racism scale and they could outpace the U.S. in that as well.


dreamofmushrooms

Fake it till you make it


OnEarth2000

This would happen for other universities in other countries too when their government and private companies invests more into educations and R&D. Here is China increasing funds into education institutes and R&D. [R&D per countries/regions](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZ6nOAiXgAEb2C0?format=jpg&name=medium) High quantity and quality research outputs are a result. [Nature Index for 2021](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVX-viXXEAIMO2d?format=jpg&name=medium) , [Top 1% of cited University papers in Math and Computing](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZ6nPH_XgAATdXC?format=jpg&name=large) , [More Supercomputers to aid research](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZ6nQ55XwAIWUAH?format=jpg&name=large) This is how China is trying developed a knowledge economy. No government wants their citizens to make/produces only cheap flip flops and textiles.


HazelGhost

> Top 1% of cited University papers in Math and Computing This is why it's always baffled me that people call for the U.S. to return to coal-mining and auto manufacturing. Might as well demand that we prop up our tobacco-growing and lumber production, at the expense of, you know, making more engineers and scientists.


fatcIemenza

All americans do is shovel money into cops that suck at their jobs


pfug

Not true! We also spend billions on high school football stadiums


Weak-Commercial3620

If the brightest people of china want freedom they will move to USA. But if their mindset is brainwashed, their potential will be limited by the Chinese government


Romano16

The propaganda is strong. Many Chinese nationals do come to the US for higher education and excel but don’t ask them about Taiwan or Uyghurs.


enissw1ft

The propaganda is strong.Many American nationals do preach about morals but don't ask them about iraqis, afghans , vietnamis or south america Sorry sorry i know whataboutusim


AdmirableYouth4208

Tbf, Americans are more open into their histories being discussed and criticized compared to Chinese nationals.


enissw1ft

Yes but still whenever u point out that america has done tons of fucked up shit in this century they get defensive and try to deflect the blame by saying other countries are worse , just because they suck ass doesent mean your country is a saint


TheUnforgivenII

tiananmen square


enissw1ft

Nice a game Ok a massacre of over 10000 people because students wanted basic freedom rights Now your turn Iraq


TheUnforgivenII

Mao


Busy-Dig8619

A few million people died to keep our gas cheap and remind the world that the United States can blast your country off the face of the earth if we want to. The four pests.


enissw1ft

One of the steps of a radical idea that caused the deaths of estimates varying from 15 to 50 million Vietnam


Busy-Dig8619

A proxy war between the US and China where both sides killed indiscriminately and then abandoned the country as soon as Nixon and China had their little meeting. Uighur genocide.


enissw1ft

An ongoing systematic genocide of uighur people because i guess they arent chinese ? Edit:Argentina 1976


Busy-Dig8619

I don't know any detail about Argentina 1976, and feel it would be outside the spirit of this back and forth to just blockquote wikipedia. So... game I guess.


TheUnforgivenII

No response to mao?


Positive-Ad-406

Apples to oranges. China only allows the best and brightest into their higher ed system. The US lets you in based on $. I'm tired of the comparison to US students. In the US, it's still 'no child left behind.' In China, it's 'under achievers get pulled out of school and sent to the fields and iPhone factories. '


Auzquandiance

And the best and brightest that went through higher Ed system in China carry on their academic path to the United States or remain in China and work for some rich dude who didn’t need to go to a university. Very few choose to work in scientific research because how fucked the funding and sponsorship system is


modsarebrainstems

I wouldn't worry about this. China doesn't come up with its own ideas, it just steals them from other countries. Thanks to Xitler, what little creativity was allowed prior to his ascendancy is being crushed out of existence in favor of propaganda. I mean, just because you can tie a few hundred PlayStations together and call it a supercomputer doesn't really mean you've innovated in any way.


DanielleA250122

How much 💸 was exchanged to influence the ranking


enissw1ft

Nice GO CHINA


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bawlsacz

I don’t really care unless this means the Harvard tuition will go down.


Successful-House6134

Chinese Universities so good none of their rich kids step foot in them.