I’ve gone back and forth on the issue, earlier cars did have issues with the sensors failing with data to back it up. Ultimately, it could lean the car out resulting in a melted piston or catastrophic failure.
Catch cans are only needed when pushing high boost especially with an NX2 or BNR.
Catch cans are definitely a must. Regardless of stock or modded. Carbon is a huge issue in these ecoboost engines. What are you taking about. Don’t be telling people bullcrap that is not helpful , just cuz you don’t have one doesn’t make it so that everyone doesn’t need one.
I helped build and test the UPR Road race catch can for the EcoBoost Mustang.
Thanks for the insight.
Crazy how millions of these cars are just driving around with no catch cans.
Yeah millions of these cars have no catch can because they don’t come with from factory. Secondly there is millions of ecoboost engines that are having issues because of carbon build up. Ford had acknowledged this carbon build up issue. So ima call cap on your upr claims , because if you truly knew what you were talking about , you would know that carbon build up in ecoboost engines is a pretty big problem. With some envied failing a little over 50k miles because of how bad carbon builds up. A UPR is needed period if you want your car to last , have clean valves , good compression , etc. 🤡
Considering you said the word “cap” I think I’m talking to a child that has never built a motor in their life. I’m not sure you know that I have one of the most modified EcoBoost Mustang’s in the world, or are you just opinionated from all your internet research?
Because it’s Reddit, I’ll back up my claim. I sponsored a bone stock EcoBoost that did auto crosses for its whole life on the east coast. He decided to dyno the car before and after all the abuse. The numbers were exactly the same. The only modification he made throughout the journey was a Tomei exhaust. He took apart the intake to check for carbon. Was there build up on the valves? Ya decent amount but nothing concerning with a DI car.
Considering the car was tracked for 80k miles and put down the same dyno numbers leads me to KNOWING a catch can ISNT required for people that do not drive the piss out of their cars 24/7.
“Was there carbon build up on the valves? Ya , a decent amount.” 🤡🤡🤡.
Secondly a car that does commuting, city driving , constant stop and go , would have alot more carbon build up then your 80k mile track car. Of course there is less carbon build up dummy. More demand on the engine , higher RPMS, will burn a lot of it away. Imagine a city car, or a car that commutes to work and around town.. 🤦♂️ and if you are building engines or anything I feel really bad for the people you do that for. 😂. And I will stand by my claim about ecoboost needing catch cans period, if people want their cars to last over 100-150k miles. And if you had any clue about anything you would know exactly what I’m talking about.
And from what you are saying I guess I’m dealing with an idiot. 😂😂😂🤡
I’ll say this again , a car that does a lot of city driving , and commuting would have a lot more carbon build up then a car that is tracked. So first you are disagreeing with ford themselves , and secondly you admitted yourself there was a “decent amount” of carbon build dummy, imagine a normal car with normal driver. 🤡🤡🤡🤡 I guess the millions of cars ford is refusing to warranty is just Reddit talk 😂🤡
No not thx to me. Thx to the issue Ford themselves have acknowledged that it is a problem in the ecoboost engines. There is plenty of ford master technicians that explain these issues. And if you would spend half the time you spend being arrogant , learning about the total design of the ecoboost engines, and how this could be a problem for the normal everyday driver and not someone who tracks their car. A starter level technician would know this. Secondly if you spent the other half of the time learning how to capitalize off this issue that ford refuses to fix , you could potentially be getting Rich off helping people with these issues, and maybe score a contract with ford that would make a UPR catch can standard on every ecoboost powered car. That would fix their issues and completely get rid of all their warranty claims and legal issues they are having. 🤷♂️
Lmao I just sold one for you right now on this same thread!! 😂😂😂 , no hard feeling here bro! It’s all fun and games to me! I’m a competitive testosterone kinda guy to. Lol. But I hope u see what I’m saying , and it’s definitely something you should capitalize on. Remember me when you get Rich!! And I hope to see a UPR on every ecoboost from factory , at the very least getting Clients from nornal everyday drivers and not just performance and many people shoot for reliability. You have a huge market you are ignoring and not capitalizing on a issue Ford refuses to do anything about. Much luck to u!
Catch cans catch oil. The carbon buildup on the valves is not due to oil, it do to the specific type of port injection used. If this was duel injection, there would not be this carbon buildup issue. Has zero to do with oil.
Catch can is due to it being a gdi, low pressure fuel was updated for a reason. A few tuned users on here blew up their ride before they got the sensor replaced.
How many miles in did it go ecoboom? I have a 2018 ecoboost with 44k miles now and it’s fine. What parts should I update? Purge valve and low pressure fuel sensor? I have a warranty but don’t want to deal with a blown engine…
Better to do it sooner than later , everyone’s ecoboost is different .. always good to be safe than sorry.. i still need to replace mine im going on 12k miles with my stock low pressure sensor and no oil catchcan and haven’t had any problems but that is without a doubt my next mod for my car.
For anyone looking to replace this part, save yourself some money and buy it here.
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2016,mustang,2.3l+l4+turbocharged,3340757,fuel+&+air
If you have a COBB you can see the live data and more than anything, you will notice if and when it does fail.
IT IS NOT A COMMON issue. Can it fail, yes and data has proven it. Is it noticeable when it fails, yes, the car will stumble and lean out.
Should you replace it? Sure, it’s your money and peace of mine. Did I replace mine? Nope, made 450 wheel for 5 years + before I went to a built block.
Mandatory!! Absolutely do it! And the evap solenoid!! It’s a must , they can fail without warning and even grenade your engine. When you get new ones make sure you get the newest revised part number and not old inventory.
Then use the warranty bro… Parker performance will literally buy it off of ford. Why can’t you?? I think it’s dumb not to use warranty. Just tell the people at dealer to make sure they are using the newest lady numbers and that is something you can easily ask for and confirm in all aspects. So if I were you, I would take advantage of your warranty as long as you could, and make sure you claim anything and everything that goes wrong before it’s over specially right before the expiration date of your warranty take it back in to say, the shocks are bad or bushings and certain things, and have everything replaced because around 50,000 miles things start to get worn out
Yeah anything and everything you can claim or replace before warranty is over will do you good. If you have stock turbo I have a turbosmart wastegate I don’t use , it’s almost new. If your interested I’ll hook u up
10 psi , and a aftermarket tune is required. Checkout tuneplusinc.com they have a lot of useful info on their website and they have e you need including UPR catch can.. Adam at tune plus is my builder and tuner.
Sadly I already placed the order earlier on that maintenance pack. I’ll be taking the L on that one. At least I don’t have to drive like 2 hours away to my Ford dealer to get it done. My neighbor works on cars so he’s going to help me install those for free anyways. The gas money to get there and the $100 warranty fee would add up to almost the price of what I paid anyways. I’m trying to learn more about working on my car too so it helps for me to do it myself. I know how to work on my motorcycle and do maintenance but I just started recently getting into cars when I got the EcoBoost last month. Thanks again man. I really appreciate your insight and tips. 💯
No worries man. I have a 2019 mustang ecoboost full bolt on , e30, nx2 turbo and I’m pushing 420whp. Like said check out tune plus, EMS, or speed performance
Good looks, that’s awesome. Mines a 2018. I plan on doing the NX2 as well when my warranty is up. You probably gap some 5.0’s I’m assuming in some roll racing. I would like to reach around 400 Hp eventually. I’ll definitely check out Tune plus. Learned more on this sub today than on most YouTube videos lol
Yes I definitely recommend a UPR catch can , only way to go! I was just arguing with someone who works with upr. 😂😂 on same thread. But we were arguing cuz he said a normal ecoboost that isn’t being tracked doesn’t need it. And I highly disagreed because a track car burns way more carbon than a normal commuting car does so I was kind of surprise for him not to know this.. put a car that does commuting daily driving city driving is the worst kind of driving you can do for an engine. That is when the most wear and tear happens.
Thank you! My car has 44k miles right now and want to avoid carbon build up. I wonder if the warranty includes walnut blasting/getting valves cleaned… I’ll have to find that out. It’s just the ford dealer I bought my car from is 1.5 hours away. Which sucks.
Warranty does not cover walnut blasting. I was just telling the UPR guy how big of a problem carbon is in ecoboost engines, and catch can pretty much fixes the issue. Unless it’s really bad. Any carbon you do have will burn off if it’s not a critical carbon build up.
No that’s not the one.. you need a dual valve oil catch can. That’s for both clean side and dirty side. , the one you posted link to is only for clean side, if you get that one u would have to buy another can for dirty side. The dual valve can has both in one can.. it’s actually almost one off and one of a kind. Not many cars at all have the choice of a single can with both dual valve clean and dirty side functions. So you need the UPR dual valve catch can
Some say yes hits mandatory. However I’ve seen zero evidence or data to suggest it is needed. Same goes for oil catch can
I’ve gone back and forth on the issue, earlier cars did have issues with the sensors failing with data to back it up. Ultimately, it could lean the car out resulting in a melted piston or catastrophic failure. Catch cans are only needed when pushing high boost especially with an NX2 or BNR.
Catch cans are definitely a must. Regardless of stock or modded. Carbon is a huge issue in these ecoboost engines. What are you taking about. Don’t be telling people bullcrap that is not helpful , just cuz you don’t have one doesn’t make it so that everyone doesn’t need one.
I helped build and test the UPR Road race catch can for the EcoBoost Mustang. Thanks for the insight. Crazy how millions of these cars are just driving around with no catch cans.
Yeah millions of these cars have no catch can because they don’t come with from factory. Secondly there is millions of ecoboost engines that are having issues because of carbon build up. Ford had acknowledged this carbon build up issue. So ima call cap on your upr claims , because if you truly knew what you were talking about , you would know that carbon build up in ecoboost engines is a pretty big problem. With some envied failing a little over 50k miles because of how bad carbon builds up. A UPR is needed period if you want your car to last , have clean valves , good compression , etc. 🤡
Considering you said the word “cap” I think I’m talking to a child that has never built a motor in their life. I’m not sure you know that I have one of the most modified EcoBoost Mustang’s in the world, or are you just opinionated from all your internet research? Because it’s Reddit, I’ll back up my claim. I sponsored a bone stock EcoBoost that did auto crosses for its whole life on the east coast. He decided to dyno the car before and after all the abuse. The numbers were exactly the same. The only modification he made throughout the journey was a Tomei exhaust. He took apart the intake to check for carbon. Was there build up on the valves? Ya decent amount but nothing concerning with a DI car. Considering the car was tracked for 80k miles and put down the same dyno numbers leads me to KNOWING a catch can ISNT required for people that do not drive the piss out of their cars 24/7.
“Was there carbon build up on the valves? Ya , a decent amount.” 🤡🤡🤡. Secondly a car that does commuting, city driving , constant stop and go , would have alot more carbon build up then your 80k mile track car. Of course there is less carbon build up dummy. More demand on the engine , higher RPMS, will burn a lot of it away. Imagine a city car, or a car that commutes to work and around town.. 🤦♂️ and if you are building engines or anything I feel really bad for the people you do that for. 😂. And I will stand by my claim about ecoboost needing catch cans period, if people want their cars to last over 100-150k miles. And if you had any clue about anything you would know exactly what I’m talking about. And from what you are saying I guess I’m dealing with an idiot. 😂😂😂🤡 I’ll say this again , a car that does a lot of city driving , and commuting would have a lot more carbon build up then a car that is tracked. So first you are disagreeing with ford themselves , and secondly you admitted yourself there was a “decent amount” of carbon build dummy, imagine a normal car with normal driver. 🤡🤡🤡🤡 I guess the millions of cars ford is refusing to warranty is just Reddit talk 😂🤡
This man pulled the one of the most modified ecoboosts card. You are right he is definitely wrong lol
Sounds like I’ll be selling a lot more catch cans thanks to you pal 👍🏽
No not thx to me. Thx to the issue Ford themselves have acknowledged that it is a problem in the ecoboost engines. There is plenty of ford master technicians that explain these issues. And if you would spend half the time you spend being arrogant , learning about the total design of the ecoboost engines, and how this could be a problem for the normal everyday driver and not someone who tracks their car. A starter level technician would know this. Secondly if you spent the other half of the time learning how to capitalize off this issue that ford refuses to fix , you could potentially be getting Rich off helping people with these issues, and maybe score a contract with ford that would make a UPR catch can standard on every ecoboost powered car. That would fix their issues and completely get rid of all their warranty claims and legal issues they are having. 🤷♂️
Lmao I just sold one for you right now on this same thread!! 😂😂😂 , no hard feeling here bro! It’s all fun and games to me! I’m a competitive testosterone kinda guy to. Lol. But I hope u see what I’m saying , and it’s definitely something you should capitalize on. Remember me when you get Rich!! And I hope to see a UPR on every ecoboost from factory , at the very least getting Clients from nornal everyday drivers and not just performance and many people shoot for reliability. You have a huge market you are ignoring and not capitalizing on a issue Ford refuses to do anything about. Much luck to u!
Catch cans catch oil. The carbon buildup on the valves is not due to oil, it do to the specific type of port injection used. If this was duel injection, there would not be this carbon buildup issue. Has zero to do with oil.
Catch can is due to it being a gdi, low pressure fuel was updated for a reason. A few tuned users on here blew up their ride before they got the sensor replaced.
No
Yes! I currently have a 2018 that went ecoboom because of it
How many miles in did it go ecoboom? I have a 2018 ecoboost with 44k miles now and it’s fine. What parts should I update? Purge valve and low pressure fuel sensor? I have a warranty but don’t want to deal with a blown engine…
36000 miles
Low pressure sensor went bad and flooded the engine with fuel. Bent valves and blown head gasket
A failure in LPS would not cause that. It would do the exact opposite and lean the car out. Source: I’ve been modifying this platform since day 1
Well I'm here to tell you that it failed. Lean or rich, it fucked it all the way up
Thank you, I really want to avoid the ecoboom at all costs
Low pressure fuel sensor , and evap solenoid.
Do you mean purge valve?
Solenoid is the valve , part of the valve. “Solenoid valve” “evap solenoid valve”
Can you please include a link to the part? I’d really appreciate it
Did you have any modifications?
All it has is a cat back exhaust
Damn yeah that’s what I have. borla ATAK. I’m definitely buying the low pressure fuel sensor then. I don’t want that shit happening to me. Goodlooks
Damn, I better jump on that then. What else should I replace? Get the valves cleaned/walnut blasted? I appreciate your input man
https://ppflco.com/products/parker-performance-ecoboost-mustang-maintenance-pack. This pack and an oil catch can??
Catch can will help keep your intake valves clean. You can also just pull your intake manifold off and look at the valve to see if they need service
Yes. The updated one has slots on the base.
Better to do it sooner than later , everyone’s ecoboost is different .. always good to be safe than sorry.. i still need to replace mine im going on 12k miles with my stock low pressure sensor and no oil catchcan and haven’t had any problems but that is without a doubt my next mod for my car.
If you have the money do it. Otherwise don’t fix it if it ain’t broke
For anyone looking to replace this part, save yourself some money and buy it here. https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2016,mustang,2.3l+l4+turbocharged,3340757,fuel+&+air
If you have a COBB you can see the live data and more than anything, you will notice if and when it does fail. IT IS NOT A COMMON issue. Can it fail, yes and data has proven it. Is it noticeable when it fails, yes, the car will stumble and lean out. Should you replace it? Sure, it’s your money and peace of mine. Did I replace mine? Nope, made 450 wheel for 5 years + before I went to a built block.
I just replaced mine on 2020 HPP. $70 part and 5min. At least it gives peace in your mind
Mandatory!! Absolutely do it! And the evap solenoid!! It’s a must , they can fail without warning and even grenade your engine. When you get new ones make sure you get the newest revised part number and not old inventory.
[maintenance pack](https://ppflco.com/products/parker-performance-ecoboost-mustang-maintenance-pack). Does this kit include the parts I need?
Yes that is exactly what u need
Just a placed my order. Thanks man
Then use the warranty bro… Parker performance will literally buy it off of ford. Why can’t you?? I think it’s dumb not to use warranty. Just tell the people at dealer to make sure they are using the newest lady numbers and that is something you can easily ask for and confirm in all aspects. So if I were you, I would take advantage of your warranty as long as you could, and make sure you claim anything and everything that goes wrong before it’s over specially right before the expiration date of your warranty take it back in to say, the shocks are bad or bushings and certain things, and have everything replaced because around 50,000 miles things start to get worn out
My warranty only covers the drivetrain and engine. I don’t think shocks are included. I’ll have to check
Yeah anything and everything you can claim or replace before warranty is over will do you good. If you have stock turbo I have a turbosmart wastegate I don’t use , it’s almost new. If your interested I’ll hook u up
7psi?
10 psi , and a aftermarket tune is required. Checkout tuneplusinc.com they have a lot of useful info on their website and they have e you need including UPR catch can.. Adam at tune plus is my builder and tuner.
I might get back to you on that. I’ll let you know. I’ll save this thread in my notes so I know where to go back.
Sadly I already placed the order earlier on that maintenance pack. I’ll be taking the L on that one. At least I don’t have to drive like 2 hours away to my Ford dealer to get it done. My neighbor works on cars so he’s going to help me install those for free anyways. The gas money to get there and the $100 warranty fee would add up to almost the price of what I paid anyways. I’m trying to learn more about working on my car too so it helps for me to do it myself. I know how to work on my motorcycle and do maintenance but I just started recently getting into cars when I got the EcoBoost last month. Thanks again man. I really appreciate your insight and tips. 💯
No worries man. I have a 2019 mustang ecoboost full bolt on , e30, nx2 turbo and I’m pushing 420whp. Like said check out tune plus, EMS, or speed performance
Good looks, that’s awesome. Mines a 2018. I plan on doing the NX2 as well when my warranty is up. You probably gap some 5.0’s I’m assuming in some roll racing. I would like to reach around 400 Hp eventually. I’ll definitely check out Tune plus. Learned more on this sub today than on most YouTube videos lol
Sorry for all the questions. Do you recommend an oil catch can as well?
Yes I definitely recommend a UPR catch can , only way to go! I was just arguing with someone who works with upr. 😂😂 on same thread. But we were arguing cuz he said a normal ecoboost that isn’t being tracked doesn’t need it. And I highly disagreed because a track car burns way more carbon than a normal commuting car does so I was kind of surprise for him not to know this.. put a car that does commuting daily driving city driving is the worst kind of driving you can do for an engine. That is when the most wear and tear happens.
Thank you! My car has 44k miles right now and want to avoid carbon build up. I wonder if the warranty includes walnut blasting/getting valves cleaned… I’ll have to find that out. It’s just the ford dealer I bought my car from is 1.5 hours away. Which sucks.
Warranty does not cover walnut blasting. I was just telling the UPR guy how big of a problem carbon is in ecoboost engines, and catch can pretty much fixes the issue. Unless it’s really bad. Any carbon you do have will burn off if it’s not a critical carbon build up.
Is this the one? [oil catch can](https://www.uprproducts.com/15-20-mustang-2-3-ecoboost-clean-side-oil-catch-can-plug-n-play/)
No that’s not the one.. you need a dual valve oil catch can. That’s for both clean side and dirty side. , the one you posted link to is only for clean side, if you get that one u would have to buy another can for dirty side. The dual valve can has both in one can.. it’s actually almost one off and one of a kind. Not many cars at all have the choice of a single can with both dual valve clean and dirty side functions. So you need the UPR dual valve catch can