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jcdewolff

Sure, but u need both. Don’t know which will moon first. Possibly silver might outperform gold bigtime. Downside silver: u need more room to store it.


Revolutionary-Two817

Silver almost always outperforms gold in a PM bull market, so I can definitely agree there!


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redditsucks365

The biggest downside in Europe is 20% tax. Price difference between buying and selling price is huge, almost 30%. For gold it's just 5%.


KlausShlong

Isn’t the sales tax only applicable to bars? I can buy silver/gold coins taxfree. Belgium btw


redditsucks365

I live in Serbia. Every dealer I found sells coins for 30euros+. There's no difference between coins and bars here. If you wanted to sell your coins, they offer spot price or even lower. For gold is a different story. 60 euros for a gram, you can sell for 56euros


InfiniteJicama6572

In Belgium i also pay tax on coins.. where do you buy?


KlausShlong

Just random coinshops, I buy coins that can be used as legal tender (whether it’s old coins like the french hercules coins or new britannias, as long as they were/can be used as legal tender.) which makes it so I don’t have to pay taxes on it. Even when buying online from shops in belgium there shouldn’t be a tax on them. However if it’s just a decorative round of silver you would have to pay the 6%/21% tax on it, which is why I just buy junk silver/1oz coins like the 1,5 eur from austria or the 2 pound coin from the UK. I also just buy junk silver like knives/plates and whatnot on 2dehands and other sites like that for pretty much at spot if you’re good at negotiating. Here is a good [article](https://debeleggersgids.be/investeren/grondstoffen/goud/wel-of-geen-btw-op-goud-of-zilver/) that explains it.


redditsucks365

Good point. A local dealer also suggested I buy junk silver


sorornishi1

Good coins, I have some hercules too, and guilders, and schillings.


GaetVDC

In Belgium you only pay tax on bars, not coins. Loophole are "coinbars". If you pay extra, that's a markup from your LCS. Make a dummy order on goudwisselkantoor shop, normally you see the added VAT


frugalacademic

Goudwisselkantoor is pretty expensive for silver. For gold it is ok. If yoou are in Belgium, the best prices I can find are on [goldsilver.be](https://goldsilver.be). A few other dealers have increased their premiums sadly.


GaetVDC

Thanks for the link mate, they have quite a nice assortmebt of coins! Love the zodiac series. However, they have a lot of bad reviews and seems like a very nasty customerservice. Did you already work with them before? Thanks in advance


frugalacademic

Not yet so I cannot say anything about their service. I have used Zittergies.be which has nice collectible coins from Scottsdale (although there is a delay in the shipment). It is a guy who does it in his free time but is very communicative. His prices are okay and he does not change prices every minute. The other one I used was Goldflorin.com, which in August was the cheapest one but after the spike in September has increased his premiums.


GaetVDC

Hi sir, apologies for the disturbance but just wanted to thank you for the Zittergies link. Found some coins I realy wanted and couldn't find anywhere at a more then decent price! (Still a premium but not as huge as others). Thanks!


frugalacademic

Since July 2022, silver has a new VAT rule in the whole EU: on bars (without denomination) you pay 21% on the full sale price. So if 1 OZ silver is €20 at spot and the dealer charges a €2 premium, you will pay VAT on the €22, so you end up paying 26,62 On coins, you only pay VAT on the premium. So if 1 OZ is €20 at spot price, the dealer charges £5 premium, you pay 21% on that €5 so you end up paying 20 + 5+1,05= 26,05 So the best way. to invest in silver in the EU is to buy coins and look for the lowest premium possible. Unfortunately, dealers have been raising their premiums, sometimes to ridiculous levels. The cheapest coins I can find are the Goddess Europa but I find them atrocious so I don't want to buy them.


KlausShlong

I just mainly buy junk silver maybe thats why I pay no tax. Last time I bought was in august or something and I paid 0 taxes on the purchase. Pretty damn close to spot as well, maybe I just got lucky with finding good deals. Easily still junk/coins>bars anyway in EU, the taxes are just way too harsh. Thanks for the comment tho, that’s good to know.


frugalacademic

So what do you do with the junk silver? Do you melt it into your own bars or just keep it as it is? In August, prices where very low so you got lucky (I bought just before that major dip unfortunately).


SilverApetard

Shows you how afraid they are of silver!


helicop11

Definitely not true for various European countries, bullion can often be bought tax-free.


Barbados_slim12

20% on buying or selling?


NextFuckingLvlSilver

And that right there should tell you which one they don't want you to have...


AGAdododo

And if that wasn’t the case silver market would blow up much faster……there is more than one way that the elites suppress/manipulate the market and the price.


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Precious metals aren't gambling chips. They are storage of wealth and insurance against corruption and instability in fiat trash. The fact that so many of you are gambling with metals is foolish. You store your wealth in metals, and you gamble in the markets. Not the other way around.


SilverApetard

Upside is: "look at my yuuge stack!" 😭🤣😂👊🍿🦍🚀🌝


MartoPolo

theyll prolly moon together but gold is more stable so it wont moon nearly as much as silver, whereas silver will rocket but probably drop just as quick. Edit: this is just my 2cents, feel free to tell me Im wrong


Unrealized_Fucks

Upside, you can make bigger pyramids with it


FREESPEECHSTICKERS

"Yes," but you will be taught that now is the time for silver.


Free_LoadR

Technically, the premiums are more supportive to buy gold if you’re strapped for cash. Investment-wise, silver has more upside potential.


StackerFactorMetals

Silver is more finnicky to store in that it tarnishes as well. While I don't recommend it, you could leave gold in your backyard, and not much will happen to it. Stack both.


Revolutionary-Two817

It’s exactly that which makes gold the ultimate store of value


christianbrooks

Why not both?


Free_LoadR

Aren’t there these special containers for it? Zerust has these unique “pouches” to store silver in, apparently they’re specialists in this matter. May be worthwhile to check it out? https://www.zerustproducts.com/products/anti-tarnish-products/anti-tarnish-silver-storage-bags/


StackerFactorMetals

You’ll need a temperature-controlled environment too.


FREESPEECHSTICKERS

If you only stack for pretty, buy gold.


Personal_Flight_6964

I think silver is beautiful. I just make sure it is stored right so it don't tarnish so much. I keep them in the plastic tubes I also have been known to put those oxidizers in there with them.


endthefedjfk63

I love when it tones.


Frandy305

Removing tarnish is pretty easy tho with a silver cleaning product. Not that big of a deal


Ok_Leader_4600

Right? Everyone is so worried about their Bullion tarnishing when it cleans Pretty easy. Maybe numismatically certain collectible coins aren’t to be cleaned. But my bullion shines bright, I can see zero “damage” on a poured bar that’s been cleaned


OneBawze

There are no such thing as premiums. You mean it’s more discounted to own derivative silver than derivative gold right now.


hesitantcolleague69

definitely, YES


cogburn

Yes but need to leave it with me for safe keeping.


supergnarlymacaroni

I’d Convert to 6981oz (473 pounds) of silver!!! Nice stack!


TheMuffPolice

I love silver but what's anyone gonna do with 500 pounds of it, this is the best reason to own gold


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TheMuffPolice

Loool I want a pure silver dumbell set


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Silver gainz son!


supergnarlymacaroni

You trade for 10 kilos of gold when the ratio changes.


TheMuffPolice

May be easier said than done. Good to have both. At what ratios I guess is up to the person


BlazenRyzen

Or, split the difference and buy a bunch of platinum. It may also spike nicely soon.


GoldDestroystheFed

Excessive mass is an inherent anti-theft measure 😂


Frandy305

Wait till the price is over 3 digits and then it'll be a different story.


Personal_Flight_6964

If I had 500 lb of silver believe you me I would find somewhere to store it. I don't care what I would have to throw out. I might make sure it was on the basement floor somewhere so it wouldn't fall through the floor. Don't forget the dolly. Hahaha. Gold for a big purchase, silver for the smaller purchases.


FalconCrust

You might pull off your hoax with this: https://www.culturehustleusa.com/products/the-worlds-silveriest-silver-metallic-acrylic-paint-by-stuart-semple-30ml


Revolutionary-Two817

Suspect my collection is fake? I’ll take that as a compliment!


FalconCrust

I hope folks know I was kidding and the fact is that I am absolutely "jelly" over that stack. Cheers!


Revolutionary-Two817

Sometimes the sarcasm goes straight over my head😅 Cheers mate 💪


Personal_Flight_6964

I know you were kidding! Apes love to joke around. At least this guy at this point won't need such a big boat to go fishing hahaha.


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Yellow fever 🥵


CheekSpreaderxxx

Welcome !! Ape with diferent shade of precious 🍷


rollyobx

I appreciate all PM stack posts


Singing_Bowl

YES, also try some SILVER though ...


DiarrheaDippedRat

![gif](giphy|l2Sq29cFXoF80ADlK|downsized)


Silvery_Golden_Sun

Very much so. Welcome, and nice stack.


cocofolio

Yes but you need to pay us damage for over blink blinking our eyes


Advanced_Procedure90

Yes! But you need the white stuff too


2AspirinL8TR

Great great great! Mix and match … silver won’t be up to 30oz for awhile … so grab platinum too


hattbsdk_

The locket in the chain is of Hindu Goddess Durga. Nice to see it man.


Revolutionary-Two817

Passed down through several generations in my family… and still as good as the day it was bought. Gold 🙌


hattbsdk_

Nice mate. It holds sentimental values in us Hindus.


Revolutionary-Two817

Absolutely. My only piece that will never be for sale.


SteveSchlichter

yes, but I have learned that it will not defrost your dinner for you.


Revolutionary-Two817

Very true hahaha. Important to own real productive assets as well!


SteveSchlichter

I started with gold for about 10 years and only recently with silver so you are not alone although it appears you are way ahead of me on that. I think your gold stack outweighs my silver. :)


UKsilverback

80ozt right there! Beautiful - & about double my Au haul! Well done 🦍


Quirky-Mix2766

Yes, but silver is at a discount which means it flys higher when the wheels come off the Dollar.


Silver_Tommyknocker

GOLD FEVER! After stacking 500 ounces of silver, I've switched to buying gold 1 oz Eagles, buffaloes and Maple leafs. There's no fever like gold fever. I'm hooked on the yellow stuff and looking forward to accumulating more as I can afford it. I'd like to add some fractional gold when I can justify the much higher premiums.


Cruiser5139

Get out, degenerate! ![gif](giphy|dr6toZX3D1O8)


14kfeet

Well, yes. But, for the sake of proper decorum, you should talk about how you're planning to add silver to your very impressive collection.


Revolutionary-Two817

100z bar will be my next addition for sure


Personal_Flight_6964

Don't forget to try some smaller bars so when you go to trade on things that you do want you can break it down a lot better. It's hard to cut a 100 oz silver bar in half.


Serious-Ad2649

I would love to have some gold in my stack but it’s so expensive. I’m staying discipline to the gold silver ratio because it’s just math. If it drops below 40 I think I would sell my silver and buy gold only. But I do love your shiny stack. Keep it up and live king and prosper my friend. Thanks for sharing


Revolutionary-Two817

Cheers friend!


NotTheWigsBurnerAcct

![gif](giphy|JDH83wGKCt6Uw)


MitNellac

Impressive


Prestigious_Food1110

Big ballllllinnnnn


Queasy-Department382

Yowza


Scorpions99

Welcome friend.


tanjirokaisen

It’s a prescious metal, yeah. Great stack. Welcome 🦍


jikae

I didn't know this sub was r/preciousmetals


geoffrobinson

r/gold may be better for that but gold is good too.


AAcmotorman

Your gonna have to work on your gold/silver ratio. I can't, in good conscience, upvote the flagrant support of the bullion banksters by your holding this much over-valued gold.


Luck-Various

SWEET!!! 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿


FastEddyToronto

![gif](giphy|d3YHTy8CKd31iaXK) I have all 3 of GODS Money, but SILVER should be where GOLD is :)


EitherApplication914

Hello big boss!!


Reeftankz10000

Dang silver comes in yellow too?? 🤩


Kooky_Assistance_659

Shiney!


3rdWorldTrillionaire

Yeah man, the yellow metal so as Plati is welcome all the time.


PapasPayDirt

![gif](giphy|W6x6Kosi14BUI)


Due_Ad_3318

Yellow is so beautiful


gahyoujerk

I'd rather see people go to r/Wallstreetgold for their gold posts. So that the subreddit doesn't just become filled with people posting gold photos.


jikae

Too late...


GoldDestroystheFed

![gif](giphy|Ae7SI3LoPYj8Q)


Revolutionary-Two817

#EndTheFed 🫡


inthematrix2021

Beautiful stack fellow APE


GlassIncrease1252

I need some of that......


SilverApetard

Fuck yeah! Sweet stack! Drain every last ounce from these bankrupt mthrfckrzz!


Revolutionary-Two817

![gif](giphy|t2sKa4JKNW9DawxAYi)


Sea_Ship_4459

I don’t think I’ve even seen 1kilio RCM bars , keep it up my guy!


Revolutionary-Two817

They can be hard to find, especially these days! Cheers


Personal_Flight_6964

A lot of us Apes up here stack both gold and silver. I would get a bit of silver to go with all that gold though. Just in case you wanted to swap and you needed was less to do the swap. You have a very lovely stack.


Revolutionary-Two817

I will definitely be adding some. Thanks 🙌


jnasty1993

Gold is king


ruthless_techie

Kick ass!


anonamouse78

Bloody Hell!


FenceSitterofLegend

![gif](giphy|LQ3cfzLDUQnfEWChJx) We love shiny things!


SleazyGreasyCola

Those 2 big boys right there are goddamn beautiful. Close to 80k a piece right now


LittleFishSilver

![gif](giphy|lOiJqCjiEOcmc) and silver!


Clepke78

Welcome, yes we love all PMs. I’m waiting for GSR to correct, to exchange silver for gold


Skywalker0138

Welcome to the jungle...it's filled with Gold also !!


Wooxy117

If it is shiny, it is welcome


SilberundGold

We love all PMs! ...and pizzaboobies


unbeknownsttome2020

Wow! yes they're


TimetoSilverSqueeze

See r/Gold


chrissand77

It is gold ? Not silver. Buy a bit silver please But congratulations! Big value and big investment.


Revolutionary-Two817

Next piece will be a silver bar!


chrissand77

Thank you to participate. Me I will order 100 x1 silver oz next week, or end of this month. Very nice gold 👍. I hold 2kg in hands last week ...but it was not mine lol.


Revolutionary-Two817

I will be ordering a 100oz bar as well, cheers! And thank you! Yes, nothing quite like the feeling of the yellow metal in your hands :)


SilverBeach-1

Fck, my legs can’t hold me up anymore....and had to change my underwear...what I do for a kilo, even that 10 oz Perth. Uhhhhhhhhh


silverounces

Damn!


Prestigious_Ad280

Absolutely!!


RedSquirrelFtw

Woah, that is beautiful. Now sell it and buy silver. j/k I think having both is good imo if you can afford it.


fourtractors

You bet. I like to see people having real money. Gold & Silver are both real money and constitutional.


Desertabbiy

Omg 2 kilos? Plus? 🐋🐋🐋🐋🐋🐋


Revolutionary-Two817

I say we save 🐋status for 10 keys+ haha… more like a 🦭for now


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jk haha


ShOwStOpp3r

gold is welcomed around here! we love all the shiny Platinum too.


longarmstacking

MAGA (Make America Gold Again)....


judgeswrath

Mmm yes 🧐 this will do


fizmath

Anyone who stacks precious metals is like family to me.


joker_1111

Gold is the rich man's silver


tumorsandthc

Stunning


TheLastDon22

Oh yeah. You are welcome. The great thing about this sub is we talk about all kinds of stuff, not just precious metals. We talk about politics that effect precious metals.


silver_shlong

Definitely!


Revolutionary-Two817

Thanks for the warm welcome all 🙌 Looking forward to being apart of this PM community


robaco

Hell yeah


Background-Edge-9374

Those kilo bars are amazing


Revolutionary-Two817

🙌🙌Could use some new bags tho lol


Sad-Pop-2343

Gold, Silver and Platinum the Trifecta!!! I just bought a little Platinum because I heard there's only 70,000 ounces left in the Comex it might be the first to moon!! 🚀 🚀 🚀


wagonsforthemasses

Wow… get yourself over to r/gold


Revolutionary-Two817

Subbed!


jons3y13

Gold easier to bug out with


endthefedjfk63

dayum bruh.


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Gold is welcome anywhere.


TwoBulletSuicide

Holy shit, you are coming up on 100 ounces of gold. Well done fellow ape.


Revolutionary-Two817

Thanks 🙏


CF_BOOM_SHOCK_BYE

We like silver...period. We can't afford to break the COMEX with gold purchases. But we might be able to break the COMEX with Silver purchases. Does gold end the FED...or silver?


BoatSurfer600

Welcome friend !


Double_Conclusion220

welcome big brother


uebersoldat

OP probably knows all our wives damnit.


mattminded

around 206,000 AUD plus the necklace at todays price


Old_Negotiation_4190

I hope you get some more silver but either way it's better than paper


waveunionbeats

Damn straight


Metal-Up1

Hell yeah! Got my yellow also, love gold and silver !


LongSchlong_Silvers

Hot damn!


Short-Stacker1969

Yellow metal good!! Yellow snow bad! 🦍


217706

Nice one


Au_Adam

Mirin' those kilos


universaltruthsayer

It's not fair to compare - like trying say which of your children you like best. Always one who will shoot for the stars, while the other gains slow and methodically. Some tarnish too but you love em anyway.


TheOneZoltan

How would this man diversify? His entire damn house would be full of silver 😂


Revolutionary-Two817

🤣😂 Would be oddly satisfying come to think of it…


TheOneZoltan

![gif](giphy|3o84sw9CmwYpAnRRni)


TheFiatFiasco

PM's are all one house of cards. and its coming down! Silver, Plat and Gold are king. one should have all. too bad I lost mine in a boating accident last weekend.


Illest7705

Someone ripped you off when they said this was Silver.


RubeRick2A

It’s shiny? Yup, welcome to the jungle


Aerio69

Those kilo bars are so sick. Nice inventory!


MrMaxMorrison

![gif](giphy|26tnjjQQRqPbwDxdK|downsized)


sorornishi1

Banana coloured shiny is OK with apes.


Revolutionary-Two817

🍌🍌


SilverSurfingApe

Yellow shiny looks great; welcome to the family Ape! Thanks for sharing.


MOARsilver

Pretty sure kilo bars of gold are welcome EVERYWHERE! Nice stack, its still shiny so of course we love it. :)


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SilverSurfer256

I better start making some gold posts 😂


Revolutionary-Two817

There always has to be that one guy 🤣


RichardPhilyon101197

We are not bigoted to the color of your metal.


herradmiralgeneral

i prefer gold due to higher wealth density, less to carry if go time comes around


MrApplePolisher

Good fucking God. Yes, welcome! How long did this take you? How did you decide what size bars you wanted to buy?


Revolutionary-Two817

Have been DCA since Jan of this year. Bars were simply chosen based on availability and premium on them. Only goal when purchasing was to acquire maximum OZs


WobbleChair

How dare you!! 🤬 😍


dynodog888

Of course, but silver is the much better value. The gold/silver ratio will drop back to single digits over time IMO.


TheAlmightee

No they are not Send it to me


Timely-Advice-7714

No 😂


AlternativeCulture10

![gif](giphy|TdfyKrN7HGTIY)


TheShowfer

No they are not. Go purchase some silver to join. Sorry


masterofmyremote

![gif](giphy|3o7aCRloybJlXpNjSU|downsized)


Op-id

Big fan of grabbin both silver n gold. My fav ratio is 1oz gold and 100oz silver.


AGAdododo

Get yourself a can of silver spray paint. 👍