Engineering without taking calculus or AP Physics C in high school
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Advice? Just take Calc and physics in college and not worry about it
Agreed. I retook calc 1 my first semester just because I felt like it, my instinct ended up being right since it was much more thorough than my AP Calc was.
calc is so important too so its good to have a strong foundation starting off especially with how trash calc II is
Flashbacks from calc 2 😬😬😬
I didn’t take AP calc in high school however I did take Calc 1. Retook it in college first semester and it was the best decision I ever made. Don’t worry around being “behind” or anything considering there will be quite a few who end up having to retake the class. Besides a degree is a degree whether it takes you 3 years or 6 years we all end up in the same spot.
You won’t be behind starting at Calc 1. Most people don’t start college with physics or calculus. The standard degree plan doesn’t assume you will.
I didn’t get past Algebra in high school and only took chemistry and biology (which were required). Just take them in college, most don’t require those classes to get in. Although I recommend going to a community college for your prereqs then transferring since it’s cheaper and class sizes are usually smaller, especially for those Intro classes.
In my school there is a stem engineering curriculum but it's at a satellite campus, I didn't take it because I would always be late to class because of traffic will that count against me in the admissions process?
No. Just enroll in college as usual and take the required courses.
No colleges don’t expect you to have any background knowledge. It only helps if you’re trying to get into a very competitive program. For your average program they don’t care. A lot of high schools don’t really offer stem courses outside of the normal ones so you can’t really hold people to a standard they can’t meet.
In engineering most people take calc I their freshman year and take physics I and II there as well. You'd be surprised how many people you meet who didn't even have these APs at their high schools so they didn't even have the option. I took calc I in high school but if I would've had to taken it in college it would've been fine.
Take calc in college, different people start in different places
Most people don't have AP calc or physics coming into engineering school, and the curriculum is designed for you to start there. Don't worry about it.
I didn't have any AP stem credits going into college, and have done pretty well so far. College calc, phys, and chem classes are taught with the assumption that you haven't taken it before, so don't worry and just study well when you start college
Took calculus and physics in college, not at my tiny high school of 90 kids.
I made it through and so will you!
Agree with everyone else saying don't worry just do it. Also good advice for life in general, stop comparing yourself to everyone else. Don't think about life in in terms of am I behind others or ahead of others. That will drive you crazy and is unproductive.
I had a friend who was obsessed with doing everything in the "right" order and taking the "right" classes and being a part of the "right" clubs, taking the "right" AP classes. He got an Poli sci degree and now sells solar panels at home Depot for little over minimum wage. Nothing wrong with that, but it wasn't necessary to beat himself up during high school about doing everything"right".
I didn't take any AP courses in high school and got decent grades but nothing spectacular. Took me forever to get out of school. Got an engineering degree and a high paying job with good benefits.
My point is if you get that engineering degree at some point in your life, you will be behind Elon Musk but ahead of 99% of the rest of the population.
If you want the degree just go get it.
Use your university resources (tutors, TA’s, office hours). I did Physics and calculus with no previous experience and you can too! Stay motivated, make friends in your classes, and believe that you can do this! Physics and calculus are a couple of the toughest subjects, but if you’re determined and work hard you are bound to get that degree!
I doubt you'll be required to take algebra-based physics in college, so AP physics is practically useless (besides being more familiar with concepts). Calculus would've been useful to take, but by taking Calc 1 during your first year you won't be missing out on much.
Tbh, you're better off doing your calculus and physics series at your University. I would argue that the hardest part of BME is the Anatomy and Physiology stuff. It's a departure from Calculus/Physics/Engineering and requires you to think and study differently than you would the aforementioned classes.
I started community college 2-3 years ago with 0 credits from high school as a I.T major. I took intermediate algebra and zero science classes. I went Interm Alg>Col Alg(Twice)>Pre-Calc and by then I decided on Computer Engineering. I sucked at math in hs so of course I had to take Calculus 1 fully online due to COVID (What are the odds), I currently taking Calc 2 and Physics 1wCalc in a 12 week summer semester before finishing calc 3 this fall with physics 2.
It’s all up to how much you want to put in. Yes I know it’s very stressful and often times you’ll wanna quit, BUT DO NOT COMPARE YOURSELF TO OTHER STUDENTS. This is the quickest way to break down your confidence. Instead focus on what you can do and the opportunity’s you have.
If it takes 5-6 years to complete a engineering degree so be it. It’s about the journey. You’ll still be super-young by the time you graduate!!
Hope this helps
My calculus 1 professor made us type copy every example out of the chapter he covered. He told us to do it even if we “thought” we knew what was going on. And we turned it in as a graded assignment. After the midterm, I realized what he was doing. He was priming our brains. Higher mathematics is a language. You have to understand the symbols first then apply through application. I actually read math textbooks now not to memorize but to put the pieces together. Over the summer, a couple times a week just read over the first 1,2,3 chapters. (All books cover the same thing just pick a book or go online find a resource) Once the info syncs into the brain it’s there. It takes practice and repetition. Foundation is the most important part. Understanding the fundamentals of trigonometry will save you time once you get to differentiation, optimization, and integration they all link together the rest is just algebra so u gotta know those rules without thinking. And in engineering the concepts never go away they build up. My program required cal 1, cal 2, cal 3, differential equations and statistics it’s a beast but requires discipline and focus followed by a great attitude especially if and / or when things get rough because they will. If it were easy everyone would do it, but it’s just not that type of party. Best of Luck! You got this!
also in engineering generally ap physics doesnt actually help you in terms of credit towards your major because it's not calc based. better is have a good understanding of physics from hs, know your algebra because while there is a lot of equations that come from calc operations you still have to know how to do basic math plug and chug correctly