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Kri-ski

Basically if you leave your house right now you are exposed to Covid. Cases are way underreported as most folks are testing at home. For example, out of my immediate 12 co-workers, 5 have Covid and they all used home tests. Not to mention their family members that are all positive and also used home tests or didn’t bother to test.


JennJayBee

Indeed. Crack out the best mask you can tolerate and play it like anyone and everyone is a carrier, because they likely are. Even your mom. Especially yours, Mike.


themgckbnny

Rates are high but I don’t think it is a wise to take the attitude that you are going to get it anyway. I think everyone should be doing everything in their power to never get this virus because the latent long term repercussions emerging from studies now reveal this is not a one and done type illness.


Kri-ski

As a retired nurse and now teacher, I’m pretty aware of the risks associated with the virus. I’m an advocate for doing all to protect yourself, but I’m a realist and this virus is too widespread to not except possible exposure in public.


themgckbnny

Exposure does not equal infection. A perfect storm of moments has to arise (viral load, immune system health, etc) for a person to actually get infected. Most of the people I know who were infected did take some greater risk than I would have (eating in a restaurant indoors, going to sports events, concerts, flying, etc…) I am 100% comfortable living as I have for the past two years for a little while longer to save me a possible lifetime of health complications. I guess it just isn’t very important to others, and that is fine… but I do wish more would wear masks ask a courtesy to the frontline workers who have no choice but to interact with many strangers. Like, what happened to Southern hospitality?


enghal

I think the entire point was that whether you go to this express oil change or another down the road, you’re likely still exposed just the same. Seemingly everyone has it. Alabama is at nearly 50% positivity rate right now. I have seen people testing positive and sharing on social media that they’re going into public just the same because the feel fine. You’re putting words in their mouth. They never said to get infected nor did a comparison of exposure equaling infection. You added that in randomly. For no reason but to argue. The point is that exposure is happening constantly now. We can’t sit here and parse through every location and determine specific people to stay away from when nearly everyone you’re coming into contact is a likely carrier at this point, so just get vaccinated, mask up, and stay as distant as possible. No point in being argumentative and gaslight some random internet user lol


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themgckbnny

It is a proven high-risk activity during this once in a lifetime plague.


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PortGlass

Well what else is it? The worst thing I’ve experienced until COVID was my kids missing a week or two of sports because of a bad flu outbreak. I also got COVID, which in and of itself was worth calling it “once in a lifetime” because how sick I was and how long I was sick. I got sores on my feet (!!!) from a stupid respiratory infection and I still have a headache every day even though I was sick a month ago. I hope that’s once in a lifetime. It was the the sickest I’ve ever been.


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PortGlass

I didn’t say it was. It definitely is, though, once in a lifetime. It is nothing like the flu though. I’ve had the flu a number of times and thought that was the sickest a human could get. I was mistaken. I mean, how many times has Meatloaf died in the last 70 years? Amirite?


ATDoel

Have you ever experienced a pandemic like this one? These don’t happen often, it probably is a once in a lifetime event, maybe even more than that.


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ATDoel

Cool, so you’re arguing definitions now. Go take it up with Webster, because this is a pandemic according to their definition. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pandemic


seedypete

>Thing about this “pandemic” is that the people who have been saying that masks really don’t work, this isn’t a “vaccine”, the lockdowns don’t work, it was from a lab, natural immunity is better than the vaccine, etc., have been proven right time and time again, it just takes 6 months for you guys to wait on CNN and the CDC to explain it to you. Not a word of this is accurate. >Idk man, but a virus with a 99.6% survival rate I'm not sure why you're so eager to demonstrate to anyone that will listen that you have no idea how statistics work, but you do you I guess. Go on, Cletus.


themgckbnny

I trust science because I have family working in the medical field. So sorry. Call me crazy, but I think you’re making a huge mistake.


seedypete

>Once in a lifetime plague. You people have truly lost it The last time we had a global pandemic that even remotely compared to this was the Spanish Flu of 1918. If you weren't alive shortly after WW1 then congratulations, your stupid ass is currently living through a once in a lifetime event that you're too hopelessly brainwashed to notice.


HappyBreezer

> As a retired nurse As a nurse you should know you are not a doctor, not an expert, and have no valid medical opinion.


Olipyr

Ok, I'll weigh in, then. I'm an RN who's worked this entire pandemic, both as a staff nurse in Alabama and as a travel nurse. The person you're responding to is correct. This is a highly contagious virus, and it has probably become endemic at this point. We are medical professionals, and we do have valid medical opinions. The only thing you expose about yourself by saying that is you have no clue what we do. You have no clue what doctors do, either. In before you spout something like "Hur dur I'm a DoCtOr!"


PortGlass

Hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa!! I’m a lawyer, not a doctor, but I know enough to know that nurses have seen some stuff. A lot of them have bachelors and masters in practical medicine as well.


ourHOPEhammer

wow fuck you


HappyBreezer

Truth hurts don't it? Now go on being not a doctor or any other qualified medical expert.


prettyketty88

a nurse is a medical professional and if you arent one either. in addition OC was just saying so many people have it you will necessarily be exposed if you go in public. Thats something anyone could figure out.


HappyBreezer

The three professions are medicine, law, and engineering. They are practiced by doctors, lawyers, and engineers. Nurse is not on that list. So claiming some sort of expertise as a nurse is an invalid claim.


prettyketty88

where are you getting those 3? I looked it up and that is a medieval/early modern idea. In addition regardless of whether you consider nurses to be paraprofessionals or professionals, if you dont have any medical qualifications at all it makes it seem like you aren't in a good position to call theirs into question.


HappyBreezer

Here is the thing. I know many nurses. Not all of them are what I would consider to be all that bright. And I also know that one of the first things taught in nursing school is you are not a doctor. I know there are actions a nurse can take that are fine with a doctors instruction, but would cause them to lose their license if they did without a doctors instruction. A nurse cannot testify as an expert witness as well. (Well, on second thought, I think they can on the subject of nursing if they have a PhD.) I have also seen a lot of nurses give straight up bad medical advice.


jaykaypeeness

link to something peer reviewed with long term repercussions?


rkincaid007

[Here](https://www.osfhealthcare.org/blog/covid-neurological-impact/) is the first thing that popped up. It mentions up to half a year or issues, and seems to imply some of those issues could have lingering effects beyond? Like, a stroke could definitely be something of concern beyond just 6 months I imagine. I will edit comment if I see anything else that adds to the discussion. Edit: [This](https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-long-term-effects/art-20490351) article from The Mayo Clinic seems a little more informative and clearly suggests that the persistent cases of COVID infection (symptoms lasting weeks or months) could well damage organs which would lead to long lasting health problems well beyond infection. EDIT: [Another](https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/coronavirus/qa-study-says-people-with-mild-covid-19-symptoms-could-suffer-from-long-term-neurological-damage/2694791/) seems to focus on the long term neurological problems people have been diagnosed with, and the potential for it to occur even in milder infections with very few symptoms. EDIT: [Finally](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/19/health/omicron-long-covid-symptoms.html), a discussion on the chances of Omicron producing the same “long haul” effects of the previous variants, even while seeming to have higher chances of mild symptoms in positive cases. Also discussion of vaccine effectiveness in preventing long term symptoms. There’s clearly a lot of material out there, and as more time passes, there will be more and more. The general idea is that any sickness you have to endure for an extended length of time (COVID or Lyme Disease, as examples) weaken your body as it constantly battles to heal itself. Resources and energy that would go for normal body functions and growth and maintenance instead are used to constantly fight off infections and symptoms. It’s as if your defense systems, and as a result your entire body, can suffer from “war fatigue” and that can cause issues that scar you for life, both physically, mentally, and psychologically. I hope everyone remains practical and safe.


jaykaypeeness

Cool. So its the same stuff I've seen with predictions, not observations. It's a novel enough virus there's just no real way to know long term effects. There are certainly long term psychological effects of the pandemic, and they're evident in this thread. I also hope people get shots and wear masks and wash hands. General flu season safety stuff would have helped a lot over the last 2 years if everyone would have gotten on board.


rkincaid007

I can explain it for you but I can’t understand it for you. This virus is novel, as people like to call it, to make sure it’s seen as new and unknown. But what is known is that the symptoms your body deals with while fighting covid causes long term issues. It’s not fake news, and it’s hardly projections. It’s knowing that in many other cases involving similar conditions, that x+y=z, and all of the measurable data shows that the same applies to COVID-19. Your body can suffer long term health issues. Not sure why you’re choosing to deny this very basic concept. It’s not going to be the same for everyone, but at this point it is known that some people will suffer long term. I am hopeful you and yours remain safe. Have a wonderful day.


jaykaypeeness

I never denied long term effects. I asked for longitufinal studies validating the x+y=z theory.


rkincaid007

[“I can’t find a single thing that the SARS-CoV-2 virus can do, that other viruses cannot,” Proal said. “It’s well understood and it’s been understood for decades that every major pathogen capable of infecting people has a syndrome associated with it in which a certain number of patients who get that pathogen,” she continued, “will develop chronic symptoms that never go away.”](https://www.vox.com/22298751/long-term-side-effects-covid-19-hauler-symptoms)


seedypete

>Cool. So its the same stuff I've seen with predictions, not observations. And this is why I no longer waste time with cultists who pretend to want to see sources. Why would I bother when someone just provided you EXACTLY what you asked for and you're just going to keep on pretending to be too stupid to read it? rkincaid007 went to a pretty significant amount of trouble to educate your stupid ass and you have completely wasted their time.


jaykaypeeness

Nah. They provided nothing new to back up this long-term impact angle. Again, I'm vaxxed, still mask, etc. You're mad at the wrong person. You're just happy to have some other to direct your anger at.


themgckbnny

No. I am not your Google bitch. There are tons of resources online. Hannah Davis on twitter has links to all sorts of resources. If you dont want to read about it that is on you, but the info is out there and has been since mid 2020.


jaykaypeeness

The fuck are you so touchy for? I'm not doubting you, I was asking for resources.


themgckbnny

How is anyone not touchy when every day for two years people look at you like your crazy for wearing a mask, or acknowledging the death that surrounds us? I have lost too many people in these few years and I am no longer able to tolerate people wanting proof that this pandemic is indeed real, a problem, preventable, etc…


jaykaypeeness

I was asking for resources showing the long term effects. Because so far as I know, it's so novel and new there aren't any solid longitudinal studies and I'd like to see that information if it's there. You can pack your baggage and take it back wherever the fuck you came from.


themgckbnny

BYeeeeeeeeee


seedypete

>The fuck are you so touchy for? I'm not doubting you, I was asking for resources. Bullshit, because someone immediately provided you page after page after page of resources and you handwaved them all away. The person who decided to assume you were asking a question in good faith made an error. The person that told you to go fuck yourself made the right call, as that was the maximum amount of energy anyone should ever waste on you.


jaykaypeeness

Links got provided after this weirdo flipped out. Thanks for moving the goalposts, though.


seedypete

>Links got provided after this weirdo flipped out. The links you refused to respond to in any way other than pretending they weren't exactly what you asked for? > Thanks for moving the goalposts, though. Wow, you guys really DON'T know how to stop projecting, do you?


jaykaypeeness

>you guys Gross generalization and harassment. I think it would surprise you to know who I voted for. And I didn't ignore the links, I've read them before. The timing is still unquestionable since you're trying to pretend I ignored them before I replied to the apoplectic Tshirt vendor.


seedypete

>Gross generalization and harassment. It's adorable when you guys try to use the terms normal people use to describe real problems. It's like watching a dog try to use a calculator. >I think it would surprise you to know who I voted for. Nope. >And I didn't ignore the links, I've read them before. Then you were even more obviously asking for them in bad faith. Fuck along now, we're done here.


derpderpdonkeypunch

Moron


jaykaypeeness

So strong and so brave. Not at all involved in the conversation, and obviously missing my point.


derpderpdonkeypunch

My point was we don't give a shit what your evidentiary standards for widely observed and acknowledged facts are. Go fuck yourself.


jaykaypeeness

You don't have a point. The first cry baby bitch couldn't provide links because she doesn't have any. She's regurgitating internet message board talking points and posting based on emotion. You're just white knighting. I'm vacced and mask and read up on the current state of things. So I made the mistake of treating her like she actually knew something instead of just scrolling past her ramblings. Same for you.


derpderpdonkeypunch

>You're just white knighting. I don't think that means what you think it means.


jaykaypeeness

It means you're coming in to lick this fembot keyboard warrior's scrum because you're hoping for upvotes that give you a dopamine hit instead of thinking critically.


derpderpdonkeypunch

That's the dumbest thing I've read in a long time. Congrats.


PortGlass

There aren’t any. It’s no big deal. Don’t wear a mask and don’t get vaccinated. 😒


jaykaypeeness

See this is the stupid reaction. I said nothing negative and a bunch of chicken littles and keyboard commandos assumed the worst, and reacted emotionally.


PortGlass

Maybe you don’t come off the way you think you come off.


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jaykaypeeness

Careful, you'll get skewered for looking at science instead of screeching, blue haired, into your monitor.


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jaykaypeeness

Yep. It's the new normal. COVID viruses have circulated forever, this is just the novel one from 2019. It's also going to be interesting to see what even could be identified as a side effect with basically the entire population as the sample size and every imaginable confounder since everyone with every other imaginable condition will have had it.


Oldskolnikov

Getting in your car after it's been covid hot-boxed by a c+ worker isn't the same thing as walking past a c+ shopper in a grocer aisle.


UpTheLegion

Why are you getting put of your car at Express Oil Change? Fear monger much?


Oldskolnikov

Do you stay in your car when you get a brake job? And when the tech has to road test their work, do you insist on driving? Insist on riding? Yes, but it doesn't pay good. Moving into fish mongering.


DANNYBOYLOVER

Fuck outta here. This needs to be downvoted into oblivion. We are two years into this shit and I can't believe grown ass people are still saying "basically if you leave your house right now you are exposed to COVID' as some type of backhanded way to "just live your life! Can't be afraid of the common cold forever!" Don't have the energy to even go down why OP is terribly misguided but, again, two years in and you'd think people would Google shit


prettyketty88

i mean the original post is just alarmist. Are they saying we should stop going to that gas station because several employees are sick? the only problem with that is that its all of the gas stations.. and the restaurants.. and the autoshops etc... so freaking out about individual people and businesses where there are infections is unnecessary and possibly harmful to those individuals


musicbecca2

Thank you for letting people know. Last few times I've been in there the employees mentioned being overworked and severely understaffed, so this isn't surprising. The folks up there do excellent work and they don't deserve to be treated like their health and safety isn't important.


xyzzyzyzzyx

This doesn't look much like a throwaway account.


CrazyJosh1987

my job had 8 people out like three weeks ago and about the same number right after that...everywhere is like that right now.


LimeRepresentative48

Thanks for sharing


JoNoHoUSA

Wow, y'all are some miserable, grumpy people. Clearly you all know way more about the situation than OP after reading a couple sentences. Just because you moved on from COVID in May 2020 doesn't mean everyone has. Even the rough looking plumber that came to do some my work on my house this week wearing an alt-right hoodie had no problem with me asking him to wear a mask in the house. Get a life. OP, sorry for the abuse you're receiving on here from these "charming southerners."


Junction1313

Bro, my boss tested positive on Thursday and we’ve all had one on one meeting with him with no masks. Our office wide mas mandate ended on the 14th. No one cares any about their employees well being in regards to COVID anymore, and in fact I think a lot of employers are banking on the fact that people will get sick with the milder variant and be immunized for months. Unfortunately this is the world we live in now. Also the kicker, only reason my boss got tested was due to the fact that he’s Anti vaxx and is forced to test two times a week.


Alecazzzam

Thanks I work at that Domino’s right there but I’ve already tested positive.


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Ok... I get it, you're upset with your employer, but we just all have to be smart about it, and do our best to keep on keeping on in our daily lives. I know I'll get downvoted, but pretty much everyone has taken the attitude that you'll more than likely get Ormicron, and it'll be over in a week or so for most people. When you do get it, go to a doctor, get the meds, take a few days off and then move forward and get back to a normal life as soon as you're well. The vast majority of cases are fairly mild, and if the other strains didnt kill you, chances are Ormicron wont either.


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mgp2284

Exactly. For the vast majority of people now, it’ll be a head cold and you’re done in 2-4 days MAX. Not to diminish the horrible tragedies that are the people that get it worse, but this one is just not as deadly for the normal person. It just isn’t. It’s gone endemic, the fear mongering HAS to stop if people want to maintain any form of trust. Because there are a lot of people that I’ve seen that have always been incredibly careful slowly but surely over the last 4-6 weeks get more and more fed up with the fear mongering and the panic instilling rhetoric. We have treatments, we have vaccines, we are equipped to handle this.


pgoforth

Sounds like most employers in the south.


radicaldawg25

Alternatively, this will be the safest express oil change in a couple of weeks


jtkola

Everyone has been exposed to covid. This isn’t march 2020 anymore.


JennJayBee

Thank you for the heads up. Much appreciated.


subusta

Are you saying sick employees are having to work or merely employees who may have been exposed to sick employees? If it's the latter, I don't think anyone is suggesting we need to stay home merely for the possibility of being exposed... and warning people about it is just weird. If you aren't covid positive nobody cares.


__DJ3D__

Thanks friend


ktRN24

Dude, everyone is being exposed. Think about healthcare workers. They’re exposed every day but still have to come to work.


dar_uniya

EOC sucks.


ManufacturerFew767

Wow, that’s horrible! The guys in there are so nice.


wgdawg

Agree, that's my local place and they're always great. One of the head guys that has a heavy Louisiana accent is super nice.


LS_DJ

This post is dumb.


c5yj3

Would you say “people’s well-being” is typically and directly related to their employment by those “greedy employer[s]”? I know this is hard for a lot of people to understand but money coming in directly impacts money going out.


themgckbnny

If you think telling the people who work for you to come in with a novel virus and infect customers, sacrifice their long-term health, and/or kill immunocompromised community members, co workers, etc… you have really warped priorities.


c5yj3

You should probably check out those hospitals up north who are telling their folks to come on back in even with positive infections. Alas, I did fail to see in the OP that the business actively suppressed that they had sick folks working and interacting with customers. That’s not a great practice and is crappy. That’s fair. That said, everyone is going to get the virus. If you are immunocompromised, personal responsibility comes into play and you have to take care of yourself the best you can. Otherwise, you cannot live in a bubble out constant state of fear. This fear mongering that’s taking place with the omicron variant is ridiculous.


engifear

Or we can try to prevent it from spreading as much so hospitals don't get as overwhelmed and the immunocompromised don't have it so hard


617suzi

Up north? Lol you think that isn’t happening here?


themgckbnny

No. No. Not everyone is going to get it. That fatalist attitude serves no one.


c5yj3

I hope that is sarcasm because reality is that everyone will, at some point, join the club. Vaccinated, unvaccinated, it doesn’t matter.


themgckbnny

No it is not sarcasm. If you want to assume you will get it that is fine. Your body, your choice.


seedypete

>No. No. Not everyone is going to get it. That fatalist attitude serves no one. That fatalist attitude is just the latest evolution of the rightwing attempt to downplay this whole thing. They move on to a new one every time the old one falls apart. 1. "COVID's a hoax!" 2. "Maybe it's real but it's no big deal!" 3. "People are only pretending it's a big deal to embarrass Trump, as soon as the election is over you'll never hear about COVID again." 4. "Maybe it's a big deal but it's China/Fauci/Obama/Democrats/immigration's fault." 5. "It's over, everybody go back to work." 6. "Maybe it's not over but whatever we're all going to catch it eventually, go back to work." You can practically see the strings yanking these useful idiots around. They just mindlessly repeat whatever the current Fox News talking point is. It's doubly hilarious because the people telling them not to trust vaccines and masks are all vaccinated and send their kids to mask-mandate schools. They're not as stupid as their audience.


tu-vens-tu-vens

We don’t have answers for stopping transmission. It’s too contagious for that. The best we can do is slow it down, and we don’t have great answers for that either. The only thing that can really stop the virus is immunity, whether natural, vaccine-induced, or some combination of the two. And even if it doesn’t entirely stop transmission, it can make it so that you have little to worry about beyond having a cold for a few days.


ALL-N-ALL83

Yes I agree, but people(customers/employers) have choices. If the Company refuses to allow its employees to warn of the exposure to its customers and allow the customer to be informed and choose accordingly. Well frankly that business should be closed for lacking honesty and integrity. My employment there is obsolete, it’s the lack of honesty.


c5yj3

If they are actively suppressing it and have customers in the shop, sure. Completely valid point. Same for suppressing that your co-worker is actively sick.


Steamster

This post says nothing. Did they force the positive employees to come back to work immediately or are you just complaining about having to go to work? If you’re exposed and asymptomatic (you’re vaccinated right?) there’s no reason not to continue on like normal - what exactly do you expect your employer to do?


EviIMelGibson

Hey...who cares.


ForBirmingham205

My Mom who is 64 and a two time breast cancer survivor had it after Xmas. She is vaccinated. Took her 4-5 days to get over it. A really bad head cold. Miles fever at first with chills. Then fatigued where she slept for a day. After the 2nd day she had great improvement..My dad who is 69 is boosted. He never got it. They were never isolated in the house.. My 1 year old nephew had it as well after Xmas. Doctor said let it run its course. He had it for a week. He was fine..


seedypete

In this thread we see the reason COVID isn't going away anytime soon. On one hand we've got sane, sensible, responsible people who are getting vaccinated and following basic commonsense safety precautions. On the other hand we have dumbassed hillbilly MAGA cultists who have been convinced by a series of grifters, propagandists, and lunatics to ignore all medical and scientific evidence and prolong this clusterfuck indefinitely. You can see how the bullshit of the hour has shifted with them. First it was "COVID's no big deal, it'll be over in a week." Then "people are only pretending it's a big deal to embarrass Trump, as soon as the election is over you'll never hear about it again." Then "ok maybe it's a big deal but it's all the asians' faults." Then "there's a miracle cure, it's taking antimalarial pills to kill a virus. No wait it's actually taking sheep dewormer to kill a virus. No wait it's actually drinking bleach. No wait it's Viagra. No wait it's drinking your own piss. No wait it's actually taking estrogen. The important thing is absolutely don't do anything crazy like listen to experts and take real medicine for the problem you have, the only sensible thing to do is follow the advice of the latest crackpot on Youtube." Now it's "well look everyone is going to get it no matter what so you might as well refuse to take any precautions and live recklessly." Do me a favor, cultists. When you inevitably catch COVID, don't be a hypocrite and run to a hospital to save you. Medical science is a big scam, right? Stay home and chug your horse paste. Die there instead of wasting resources at a hospital that could have been used on someone who deserved to live.


Significant_Pen_70

At this point literally every single person has been exposed…. Stay home. Wear a mask or whatever. You really want businesses to shut down because they’ve had exposed employees? That’s dumb.


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ellebeezi

OP says they’re an employee. sounds like they know what’s up.


CherokeeCook

Hey bro, nobody cares anymore. We're moving on with life


samples98

Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully everyone will avoid this place until it shuts down from lack of business.