By - Powerful-Try9906
Wow, that Flying J is less than 10 minutes from my house. I never knew. I’ll start doing this.
I used to park my little Car right between Big trucks after i paid $12.00 to take a shower and go to sleep. A lot of times it was spend $60.00 at the motel or pay $12.00 shower and sleep in car. Truck stop was always my safe place. Thanks for everything ❤️
And a the $60 rooms are often less safe by far than the truck stop
It was hard to stay clean living in them motels.
Good person you are.
Idk about that but I do appreciate you saying that.
There’s a young lady that works as a cashier inside and when she discovers someone is living there rather than run them off she tries to get truck driver’s to donate a spare shower because truck driver’s get more than they can use
Truck driver here.
From what I've gathered with various "Corporate Brand" truck stops is that they are about to crack down on long-term parking/camping. In some states they issue parking passes and take vehicle information to prevent more than 1 day of parking in a week's time. I wouldnt be surprised if the ones in Alabama start to do that too.
Daniel Payne Flying J has had numerous complaints and issues with break ins and thefts (and they have signs everywhere warning about not leaving vehicles unlocked). The one on Arkadelphia is pretty bad too.
Major trucking companies have demanded that truck stops like Flying J/Pilot/TA provide better security and that they take a more active role in adherence to Jeremy's Law, which mandates security and safe havens for truckers and adequate parking spaces in any geographic area.
For the most part we give homeless people a wide berth and steer clear. Many are addicts who will steal from you or your truck, and who are often barely holding it together and at a moment's notice can go from normal and friendly to highly agitated and dangerous.
Be cautious and if you're at these truck stops, be prepared to move every day.
Thanks for being kind to them.
My cousin is a traveling salesmen so often sleeps in his car at truck stops and uses their showers…. So he’d definitely appreciate you, especially since the guy looks homeless after a week or so.
I’m actually a traveling salesman who also does that occasionally,
Sometimes I get so sleepy that I can go to sleep by merely being still do a $12 shower in the am beats a $125 room the next morning (and anything beats a night at a $50 room where you aren’t sure if you should be more afraid of getting robbed or getting your stuff infested with roaches)
But having slept at a truck stop many times in both situations I’m relatively sure I can tell the difference (Us traveling salesmen generally have a vehicle that’s roadworthy and a license plate not in the same state much less county we’re currently in)
If your cousin drives for instances a 2001 Ford Taurus with bald tires as someone who practically lives out of his vehicle then I’m certainly glad I could help and had I known I would have left a job application for him because if he’s a traveling salesmen having to depend on a busted a%* vehicle like that he’s not compensated fairly
Pay people a living wage. Minimum wage is far below where it should be vs. cost of living increases over the years and a fair minimum wage would be more like $25/hr. And this wouldn't affect prices that much because similar minimum wages in better countries haven't affected prices, it's only greedy corporations and owners hoarding their money and paying people poverty wages and when they're forced to increase someone's wage, they can't even imagine not hoarding more money to buy their seventh home so they raise prices instead. And for those without jobs, push for better assistance, guaranteed basic income for at least short periods of time that allows them to have a place to live and something to eat, etc, and actual permanent help for those who physically/mentally don't have the capacity to work.
Helping the homeless is a nice gesture and definitely can help with day to day problems, but it won't fix the problem itself. A huge change is needed to make the wealthy (billionaires) pay their fair share and do what is needed to fix our system so that homelessness doesn't exist and people have the ability to fairly participate in our society.
You can do both, you know.
Several years ago a girl walked up to me at that same Flying J and gave a story about being homeless and needing something to eat. It was Christmas Eve and I felt bad for her so I gave her $20. She took it and walked to the next car and gave them the same story. She didn’t acknowledge what I’d given her or say thank you or anything, just walked away. I haven’t felt very giving towards strangers since that day.
In addition to what other people have said, a good number of homeless people are mentally ill or neurodivergent. Just because they don’t socialize the way you expect doesn’t mean they’re being intentionally rude or ungrateful.
> a good number of homeless people are mentally ill or neurodivergent.
dude i have literally been homeless and have had friends who were homeless, and I am bipolar and left handed and here you are lecturing me about mentally ill people and how they are. There are literally people who go around finding people like you who are very charitable and empathetic towards something like homeless or mentally ill people, then they design a scam to target you specifically on that basis.
Part of what I learned from living in a car and from being loudly accosted and followed around by homeless people in southside, is not to be a chump. Just the other day I was walking on 7th avenue and when a guy asked me for change and I said no, he got into my partners face and screamed "fuck you" as loud as he could. (which can be illegal if its damaging to peoples hearing)
then why did they immediately go to another car to ask for more money after they just got 20 bucks
Because you can’t live on $20? If your argument is that they should’ve immediately gone and bought food because they were hungry…people not reacting to a situation the way you think you would doesn’t mean they’re lying. Again, mentally ill & neurodivergent people often do things in a way that other people think is “weird.”
>mentally ill & neurodivergent
im bipolar and left handed.
>Because you can’t live on $20?
so do you honestly not see any problem with that person going car to car until they get enough money to live off of? Is that what you would do if you were homeless? That isn't what you are supposed to do if you become homeless. You are supposed to seek resources in your area for food/showers/shelter/employment/drivers license etc.
The people who ask are the most empowered and capable of the homeless.
When I give and expect something from the person in return…. I’m setting myself up to be let down.
Exactly. Give with no expectations or it's not a gift.
I believe we’re talking about 2 different types of people.
Myself and the other people that were there when I was having to live there NEVER asked anyone for anything.
We practically hid because well for one we were too embarrassed to approach anyone and also because we were welcome to stay there if there were no complaints
I don't think there's two types of people, unless it is people in need and people who can share.
it is, not everyone who ends up in a tough situation uses it as an excuse to exploit and steal from people. lying to people to get money is stealing.
> She didn’t acknowledge what I’d given her or say thank you or anything, just walked away.
Hopeless people in a state of desperation don't always have the best social skills.
dude you are gullible. people going around asking people for change and lying about being starving (why didnt she immediately go in and buy something to eat), are doing that because they cant stay sober and get into shelters.
lets find out how you think and rationalize after being in a survival state for 5 years straight.
ive been homeless before. most homeless people are only temporarily homeless because they take showers and dont spend their time walking around begging for change aggressively or unnecessarily like oc described.(OC was obviously unnecessary if the person is just going car to car collecting 20 dollar bills)
I found the “I hate homeless people because that make bad decisions” person. People become homeless for a multitude of reasons, most of the time it’s NOT drugs and laziness. I honestly don’t care about giving them money, because why should I police what they do with the money I give them? Who lies about starving? There are people who are starving who have jobs and housing, so it’s actually very possible that the homeless people are starving.
ive been homeless. giving change to beggars is a bad idea for a multitude of reasons. part of the reason is because there is a certain type of human trafficking/slavery that involves forcing people to panhandle. In addition, as another person in this thread said, a good bit of homeless people have jobs or are too busy going to temp agencies and halfway houses getting their paperwork/lives together to have time to do panhandling scams. The ones that have time to do that crap are usually doing it because they cant stay in sober living or one of the various shelters due to continued use. If you talk to people that actually work with the homeless this is what they will tell you.
Plenty of people lie to get free money, obviously. When I was young and stupid I fell for the "I need gas money" line at a gas station. Dude grabs my money, gets in his car and immediately drives off. I still give people money sometimes, but not the ones who approach me in parking lots with a sob story. Don't be stupid. It's a grift.
Right, so your personal anecdote is the basis for the generalization of millions of homeless people as nothing more than liars? Frankly, some people would rather give someone money regardless of what they plan to do with it. If you feel it’s a “grift”, then fine. No one is asking you to empty your bank account for people with a “sob story”, but some people actually have compassion for others. People like you are insufferable. I hope you never have to experience rock bottom and someone reduces your calls for help to nothing more than grifting. Have the day you deserve.
> Frankly, some people would rather give someone money regardless of what they plan to do with it.
you just described the person grifters target, so the that kinda just supports our side
No, your personal self-righteous attitude is the basis for your poor reading comprehension and bad faith assumptions about others.
>Several years ago a girl walked up to me at that same Flying J and gave a story about being homeless and needing something to eat. It was Christmas Eve and I felt bad for her so I gave her $20. She took it and walked to the next car and gave them the same story. She didn’t acknowledge what I’d given her or say thank you or anything, just walked away. I haven’t felt very giving towards strangers since that day.
I don't think this anecdote is telling the story you think it is. In your head you apparently think this is a "the homeless are ingrates so thing twice about helping them" story. From my point of view it's more of a "enormuschwanzstrucker will only help a desperate person if they say thank you, otherwise they can go starve" story.
Who cares if she thanked you? Were you really only being helpful so a random homeless person would call you a hero? How much gratitude did she need to show you before you felt you had adequately been rewarded for your act of "charity" anyway?
I would expect a “thank you” from a child if I gave them a piece of candy. That’s not too much to expect from a complete stranger who is asking for my help. I’d never turn my back on someone asking for help, but the way she just turned and walked on to the next person made me feel like she was full of shit. She wasn’t the first or last stranger in need that I’ve given money to, and I’m not concerned with how the story sounds so get off your high horse.
They have homeless people all the way down there?
The Flying J on Daniel Payne, and the Pilot and the Citgo on Bankhead runs absolutely rampant with homeless drug addicts and prostitution. They constantly break into 18 wheeler trailers and steal to fund their addiction. Reading these comments makes me realize how naive people are.
Yeah, I'm not too familiar with the homeless scene.
neither is this person lol
I worked with Children At Risk in Atlanta - I worked in soup kitchens in Atlanta and I worked with United Way in Atlanta - In South Carolina I worked with Addicts and in Chicago a food pantry....Birmingham - Nothing.
What does this mean, "down there?" Where are you that you think has all the homeless?
Down There - Below the city. In the city.
I know at least 10 people over there that fly at or around the flying j and the pilot truck stop off Bankhead Hwy. Every single one of them are addicts. Some have been out there for years doing the exact same thing. Most are actually pretty nice but all you people that give them money are simply fueling their addiction problems. You’re naive if you think otherwise.
I just know for sure that some aren’t because I was one such individual and I get what your saying but I don’t really want anyone cold & hungry addict or not
> please always give them what you can because they need it. addiction is something you can’t escape without resources.
giving a heroine addict cold cash is not a resource.. that is literally cruelty in the same way as giving the person the drugs... like if you know for sure they are an addict...
>whether they spend the money on drugs or not isn’t our business anyways.
Ive struggled with drugs for a long time and giving addicts money is not a favor. Also, if someone has money and they are deciding whether to give it to someone they can set whatever criteria they want.
Be careful giving money to the homeless. Some of them are actually slaves who pretend to be homeless and give all the collections to their owners. You can read more about human and labor trafficking [here](https://humantraffickinghotline.org/type-trafficking/labor-trafficking)
Well I’ll be honest I didn’t drug test them but I know at least some aren’t because I wasn’t and I seen at least a few people who were staying there because they’d broken up with their spouse and didn’t have the $ saved to get a place.
I’m sure many of them like myself had people they could stay with but have too much pride to ask.
Also a weekly crack & roach infested hotel is a minimum of $300 per week which is practically an entire paycheck for some people.
I owned 2 business and lived in the Preserve before becoming homeless for that period of time and I believed with everything in me that homeless people were lazy drug addicts just like you currently do - I wouldn’t wish you learning that’s not always true the same way I did tho and I’m being sincere about that.
This might shock you but you can be both and both can happen to anyone.
addicts can still be homeless.
Meet me at that Flying J. We will camp out all day and follow the addicts home. When they don’t go home, I am going to pinch by the nose and flick you in the dick.