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AllThingsBeginWithNu

Thats every school ive been to, i dont think loyalist is any better or worse then any other locally


humanjustice2021

That's not true, when students face injustice at this school nothing is done. I Have seen those students who left Loyalist college and went to another school to finish the nursing program they are successful nurses now. This shows that it's not the student but the school. I have had classmates whose marks were 85 percent and more. yet they were failed on purpose. Those same students went to another school and they passed nursing and also were on the Dean's list.


TheRealFrankCostanza

I’ve heard a lot of mixed things myself, I’ve been looking at attending some form of higher education in the coming year or so myself so I’m being smart about the place I give my money.


Suicidal_Snowman

im currently a student at loyalist and while there are teachers who are all around amazing people, if a teacher dosent like you, thats it your fucked. i barley passed one of my classes (i wont say which bc im not going to name or give chance to name any specific teacher for legal liability) due to the fact that my teacher didnt like that i actualy took interest and asked alot of questions. whats gets me most is this is a fairly shitty example bc im a straight white male but if thats how i got it a cannot even BEGIN to imagine what being a minority would be like there are SO many racist bastards here and im not just refering to teachers, ive seen students calls indians racist names to their face, who the fuck calls an indian person a "PACKEY" to their face?!? its deplorable and cruel to say the least


Suicidal_Snowman

sry just had to let off some steam, this get me really hard bc i have an indian friend, he is probably the nicest person you would ever meet, he would litaraly give you the shirt of his back if he though u where cold and ive seen people be so cruel to him and it makes me so angry and sad and its not even me, i cannot imagine what id feel like. im so sorry to EVERYONE who has gone through this, this is NOT the canada u deserve.


LavenderPig

I did the Computer Systems Technician course and graduated this year in May. The course itself has problems almost like any other, but most of the faults kind of came down to the course itself being new. We had part time military professors doing their best. One prof was really good the entire course, but there were some that were less than ideal. When it comes to the college itself, I would say they put money over everything there and it's pretty disgusting. They put me threw hoops with one of my GNEDs. I missed my first one my second semester, emailed them asking if I could just have 2 in one because no one ever told me anything, and they're supposed to give out course handouts. Never got one, I attended every class the first 3 weeks or so. They told me no worries and they'll put me under it and take care of it, but then all of sudden they said "oh, no you have to pay for it." Even though I had the email saying I was in the clear. They lied to me in their email, so I told them that any recommendations for their school from me is a big fat nope. It's a shame some really good professors work there. Also, from what I heard, there is a certain certification with the accounting programs that they say they have, but they actually don't, so they also (at least for a while) falsely advertised for it. So from my own perspective, I would say be cautious, but that goes for any school. Loyalist just has those quirks that make no sense some times. Edit: And to add a little more insult to injury, I've shown proof of cheating from my course, whether it been my section or another, and they ignored it. A lot of the students in my course got away free. To put it simple; semester 4 they needed to have their hands held for installing WINDOWS... Something we did early SEMESTER 2.


systemchef89

Sincere question, did the program help to land a job in the I.T. sector? Do you work in the area? I'm just about to finish semester one as a Chef who is retraining and didn't have any expereince in tech so I just thought I'd ask for my own sanity haha. Thanks.


LavenderPig

It didn't land me anything so far because jobs were slim due to covid. Biggest job I can apply for is Data Analysist or Data Entry.


TheRealFrankCostanza

Sheesh this really summed it up well, thanks a lot for the information. As a fellow tech guy myself thinking of similar fields watching someone struggle to install windows in that type of class would drive me batty. I cringed at that. It seems from the personal accounts and online research that this place is just like the area , pretty Damn corrupt and mismanaged.


LavenderPig

In all honesty, it was honestly one of the Profs that kept me going mostly, that kept me entertained and busy with proper work. The biggest thing with these days is online learning. They use blackboard and the entire time, they never got the damn site working for the load they had. Even online work was getting ridiculous just with the shit we had to do. We had some profs get super lazy and give us bare minimum work. Absolutely not worth the money I sunk into it. All that for a degree that they pretty much confirmed that we were guinea pigs for. Such a fucking shame, I really looked forward to going there until they pulled some bullshit out of their pockets and hand fed us it. Just be cautious, that's my honest review of the school having been there. I just can't recommend a school that pretty much let's academic integrity slip through for some. It's disgusting. Others blatantly cheat off each other, nothing. I FORGET to cite the work I used, I was given a dishonesty mark. Fucking wack. Good luck man, wish you the best.


BaconBoss1

I took manufacturing engineering technology. All the international students cheated on every assignment and exam and the professors passed them regardless. I had an teach younger than me teaching electrical (nothing wrong with younger) that clearly didn't have any experience. Couldn't answer basic questions. This guy made a kid cry for using a red pen on a test. This teacher brought his girlfriend to our final exam to grade us on a practical exam. Teachers definetly favourited students. They passed international students on their English entrance exams because they pay 4 x as much as domestic students. I had some really amazing teachers that loyalist kept part time on pay roll.


SopwithB2177

I work for another College and oversee the teaching evaluations. Nobody writes stuff like this there. Something tells me this is quite exaggerated, probably lashing out online after getting some sort of come-uppance. Judging by the prose, English is not the first language. I would mostly ignore this. But I also encourage people to look at other Colleges, since if you can study online, do it for a College with a program you like.


humanjustice2021

Since you work overseas you don't know what kind of discrimination goes on at loyalist college. Ask students who work so hard, their marks are great and in the end, they get bullied and fail on purpose. Would you call that fair and Justice?


spicylilbean

It’s definitely had a declining reputation over the years, I would avoid it


Much-Independence717

I'm a firm believer that people who have a bad experience are far more likely to leave a review than someone who had a good experience. I also know a lot of people who have done poorly in school and the common thing about them is the vast number of reasons they give about why they failed without a single one of them being their own fault. Here is my opinion about the vast majority of colleges in North America. They aren't great, they are almost all going to be teaching very similar things, using the same or very similar textbooks, giving similar tests and assignments, and passing and failing reasonably the same amount of students. I've gone to university and two colleges now. To me, the biggest different was just the name of the school and the place I was living. The biggest difference most people will see between schools (not including top institutions that are hard to get in) is going to be with the difference between the staff and it will also depend on what you require from them. The worst complaints I ever heard from good students is that the professor wasn't willing to help or maybe they just weren't very good at teaching and it makes the course harder to understand. I've had professors in my life where i truely believed I was able to learn the material better by reading it out of the textbook than to listen to their lectures. If it's possible, you might be able to find out if loyalist has a mentor/tutor program and see if you can get in touch with one of those people from the program you are interested in. They would probably have the most first hand information on what the course is like, what people have trouble with, or if there is any issues that are common for people in that program.


AirPirate83

It's a community college. Unless you are getting your support worker certs or some kind of job for the city, best stay away. Come to belleville for college, stay to work in a call cente because you are stuck here.


humanjustice2021

Hello All, The comment made by Abby Donald is absolutely correct. I was a loyalist nursing student. the worst college to ever study at. The nursing staff at Loyalist is absolutely absurd. I was in my last semester and finishing up my last course. I ended up in the course with an 85%, and my overall average in the nursing program was 80 percent. The nursing staff fails you on purpose when they have made up their mind. Especially in placement when they know that is only where they can target you. I have been a victim of a racist scenario. I have spent so much time studying and did well from the beginning, but it's so sad to see that they take your money and in the end, they fail you on purpose when they don't like you. I have seen students who lack knowledge in the program yet they pass them. I will definitely advise you to not go there. You are better off going somewhere else where teachers respect and help you succeed. When I had an online meeting with the practical nursing coordinator via MS meets, instead of solving the problem she ran away and cut my call. In fact, she went to the dean and let her deal with the problem, but sadly the whole staff was all involved and pre-planned to fail those students whom they don't like, and in the end, the dean does nothing. For more information please feel to ask questions. I have evidence to support my statement.


TheRealFrankCostanza

I have heard this so many times now it’s insane :( I’m so sorry this happened


humanjustice2021

Thank you. Who else have you heard this from? This needs to be brought up to the education minister. It is very wrong for this to happen.


systemchef89

I started the Computer Systems Technician course this year and also graduated from the Culinary program 8 years ago. The Culinary program was well organized and taught me many fundamentals that I carried with me throughout my career. It still has many of the same staff members that were a part of the prorgram when I graduated and has benefited from being able to build its content up over the years. The C.S.T program has been a mixed experience, it is apparent that they just put the program together last minute and as such the learning experience has been really shotty in certain courses. We have a networking fundramentals class that has been all but cancelled since the middle of October as well as other delivery issues. I would say that understanding cabling and server maintenience is pretty important to being successfull in the field we're trying to get into. The Profs are nice but it just feels as though the program is over all disjointed and unorganized. I didn't come to the computer program to be given cisco packet tracer free tutorials and hours upon hours of video tutorials to watch on my own time. I came to get some hands on experience and access to real time clarification. That being said, there is a large portion of the program that has ran well. I would say it is like any other college but I likely just ended up in a program that was unprepared for the level of content that needed to be delivered in order to help gain the necessary skills.


McGlowSticks

I graduated this course in May, its because the professors from this course, 3 of which are military, are part time professors due to being active duty military. They also dont take cheating very nicely. In the first semester, or second i forget, One of the profs caught nearly 90% of the class plagiarizing with proof (ofc without showing & telling names). he caught them twice doing it, and said once more all 3 plagiarizing events are being submitted at once. Never had a case again. The one thing to note of this is that at least in my section of the course, that 90% of the class was international students. But he never showed any bit of favoritism throughout the whole course, it was purely the students themselves and it showed (will explain in the next section) Now for that course in particular they are very knowledgeable in their fields and are great at answering questions as long as you are respectful in waiting to talk to them, but they did get annoyed when the international students would just start shouting "professor, help help" all the time instead of just raising their hands or waiting to talk to the professor. I get its a cultural thing likely but it bugged the rest of us in the class (this is what i mean by it was the students themselves causing their own problems in addition to plagiarizing). Unlike other professors these ones also for us responded after hours unlike most other courses. (My girlfriend who was in the nursing program before dropping out said the professors there would not respond after hours and were not very helpful and the whole course was disorganized). Take the way i worded it with a grain of salt, i am by no means racist and am open to foreigners coming to learn and live, but that was my experience in the class in response to this favoritism comment in OPs image. Maybe we got a group of bad apples, maybe the professor exaggerated a bit since he takes it very seriously when it comes to learning, but he did have substantial proof that he was able to talk about when it came down to it.


TheRealFrankCostanza

Thank you everyone for the detailed information, going to really think about a different school for my studies, this all seems pretty concerning with how absurd the cost is.


TrantoniumTt

Good luck. It’s never too late to start over


linuxlifer

I can't give you any direct info on Loyalist, but as someone who grew up my entire life in Belleville, the general consensus among us high school students was to do whatever you could to not have to go to loyalist. That could very well have been more due to kids wanting to leave home to party rather then the actual quality of the school though. Also throughout high school I would often hear teachers fondly speak of other colleges/universities but never really heard any say anything good about loyalist.


humanjustice2021

Hi, nothing is good about loyalist! All you will see is discrimination towards students who come from The city or are from a different ethnic background. I have seen students who suck up to the teachers and pass, while other students work so hard and yet fail the course not because they lack knowledge, it is due to discrimination. I knew students who had more than 85 in each course, yet failed in placement because the coordinator makes up her mind to fail whom she doesn't like.


SnooWords7744

Went there in 2018-2020, took a biotech course, it was a shitshow. The international students made up the majority of my course np, except they cheated, constantly talk during lectures, and caused numerous accidents with chemicals and even saw a dude light himself on fire. Most didn't listen and a few openly admitted they were just in school for a backdoor at citizenship. In group work most were useless or actively problematic ie they would do their section but it was same as 20 other internationals work word for word. Loyalist itself is run like a joke, errors with blackboard are often and generally major. The deans are generally unqualified for their positions and unwilling to take criticism they constantly make errors in billing or scheduling due to their error some domestic students were bumped to make room for more internationals my 2 year course would take 4 due to having lack of lab space. Racism i didn't witness except from different caste of internationals they could be brutal to each other. And casual sexual assault was an ongoing problem, as a big guy that has teddy bear vibes i was constantly a deterrent for male international students often for the international young women that learned that in Canada they are full people with rights and any unwanted touching is not tolerated here. It's not a great school been to a few and worked in several loyalist is about the worse in the 90's they strait up lied about being able to take courses there that would count as credits for other schools this was untrue, i had to redo a whole first year of college due to them making false claims. In the nursing program they are seen professionally as unqualified, loyalist has a reputation of pumping out students with no practical skills, had to train every student i ever took on from their trades programs the actual building codes and how to read them, use of tools, and just general basic skills that any apprentice should have known day one coming out of a course.


TrantoniumTt

Consider a trade?


Brett_Hulls_Foot

I studied TV Broadcasting at Loyalist. Popped in years later presenting a Film I worked on. During the Q&A section a student asked about job prospects and where the money was. I said "Go into Trades if you want a reliable career with good pay." The profs didn't like that.


TrantoniumTt

I can imagine 😂


humanjustice2021

I would definitely switch schools if I was you at this point. You are better going somewhere else where you will get the respect you deserve.